In the conversation between historian and writer Ofri Ilany and artist Hillel Roman, the connection between landscape, history, and artistic practice emerges—between the forests burning in California and the images igniting in the mind.

Roman, whose work explores the relationships between image, material, and space, seeks to deconstruct and reconstruct what is taken for granted. Ilany, whose writings deal with power structures, memory, and the history of nature, views wildfires not only as an ecological phenomenon but as a regime of heat, a force that reshapes culture. Together, they discuss how images, ideas, and fires bring about change—sometimes as erasure, sometimes as renewal.

Roman and Ilany examine fire not merely as a destructive force, but as a space where new possibilities emerge—in art, in nature, and in life.